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I just never liked Filmation turning Prince Adam into Eternia’s version of Clark Kent. Instead of wearing glasses to conceal his identity, he would wear pink clothes over his buff bod and that would throw everyone off the trail.

Honestly He-Man being from a tribe of nomads or whatever it was made more sense. In the cartoon his dad is king of the planet and his mom was a former NASA astronaut?
 
I just never liked Filmation turning Prince Adam into Eternia’s version of Clark Kent. Instead of wearing glasses to conceal his identity, he would wear pink clothes over his buff bod and that would throw everyone off the trail.

Honestly He-Man being from a tribe of nomads or whatever it was made more sense. In the cartoon his dad is king of the planet and his mom was a former NASA astronaut?

I barely remember the cartoon. I didnt know his mom was from Earth. I did try watching the Christmas special a few years back, but got bored out of my mind pretty quick. Nice animation , though. Even though they constantly re-used shots, it was nicely rotoscoped movements.
 
The 1987 Dolph Lundgren Masters of the Universe film is a cinematic masterpiece. I hope that the next live action film will be a sequel and not a full on reboot, even though I know it will be. :tongue:
 
The 1987 Dolph Lundgren Masters of the Universe film is a cinematic masterpiece. I hope that the next live action film will be a sequel and not a full on reboot, even though I know it will be. :tongue:
They will never improve upon Courteney Cox in her youthful prime!
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The “I have the power” moment is really what sells the Filmation cartoon.
You need to see the semi documentary
Toys that made us!
It talks about how these toys got developed and why. He man came about specifically to give small kids the feeling of Having the Power!!!
 
469249-1020-a.jpg file_609911_flash-gordon-640x983.jpg There's no game for it, but I was telling my wife last night that I want to see Dolph Lundgren He-Man team up with Sam Jones Flash Gordon against Skeletor who has revived Ming the Merciless through necromancy. Eternia and the moons of Mongo go together like chocolate and peanut butter.
 
Imagine if Masters of the Universe really had become "the Star Wars of the '80s..." as that hyperbolic blurb claimed. Oh, the world would be a better place:

"Harmony and understanding
Sympathy and trust abounding
No more falsehoods or derisions
Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revelation
And the mind's true liberation"
 
In the Resources forum here, one can find a pdf I put together a while back entitled Star Gladiators.

I'm not a big video game player, but there's a few I've become enamoured with over the years, usually based on the aesthetics and world-building. Star Gladiators is one such game.

If anyone recalls, in the early 80s the market was flooded with a host of low-budget Star Wars rip-offs. Many of these were from Roger Corman, and ranged from "really bad" to "so-bad-its-good", but there was always an innocent charm to them that I liked. Star Gladiators is exactly like on of these, if Roger Corman took his concepts for a Star Wars rip-off to Japan and had them interpret it as an anime. Its not so much what they adapted from Star Wars that makes it interesting, so much as what they added.

The Darth Vader rip-off was the preposterously named "Bilstein", whose Vader samurai-esque helmet was extended into a pope hat. Descended (I kid you not) from literal Nazis, he was not only a badass villain, but he also died, then came back in two forms: as a cyborg and as a ghost.

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I would love to do an RPG based on this series, and in fact the pdf was my initial research into doing just that, making an unofficial Phaserip supplement based on the Star Gladiators universe .

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The Keep is one of my favourite pulp horror books. The movie would be great if it wasn't for that electro-synth soundtrack that completely undercuts the tone and any hope of horror or suspense. Incidentally, The Keep was the main inspiration for Mike Mignola's The Steadfast Tin Soldier, which would make for a great premise for a game.
 
Great idea, an RPG based on the SW knock-offs like the actually quite good Battle Beyond the Stars (written by John Sayles!) or the so-bad-its-good Star Crash would be welcome.

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Starcrash is better than Star Wars any day of the week. I mean, Stella Starr, a Texan robot, Prince David Hasselhoff, come on! I ran a campaign loosely based on Italian-style Star Wars ripoffs, especially Star Crash. Used West End Star Wars 1st edition as the chassis. The main player characters looked essentially like these guys
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tooling around a sexploitation galaxy in a hotrod freighter, smuggling space stimulants and other contraband to uptight planets to free their minds so their asses might follow.

It was called SPACE WAR 84 and it was awesome.
 
Starcrash is better than Star Wars any day of the week. I mean, Stella Starr, a Texan robot, Prince David Hasselhoff, come on! I ran a campaign loosely based on Italian-style Star Wars ripoffs, especially Star Crash. Used West End Star Wars 1st edition as the chassis. The main player characters looked essentially like these guys
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tooling around a sexploitation galaxy in a hotrod freighter, smuggling space stimulants and other contraband to uptight planets to free their minds so their asses might follow.

It was called SPACE WAR 84 and it was awesome.
Well, if that is the direction we are going, I'm throwing this out there for an RPG adaptation.
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Well, if that is the direction we are going, I'm throwing this out there for an RPG adaptation.
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I'd play that ANY TIME. That movie is fun. Soundtrack is great. Billy Preston, Peter Frampton, Aerosmith, and the Bee Gees in their prime, what's not to like? Don't let George Burns being you down!
 
I'd play that ANY TIME. That movie is fun. Soundtrack is great. Billy Preston, Peter Frampton, Aerosmith, and the Bee Gees in their prime, what's not to like? Don't let George Burns being you down!
It even has a fetch quest. It was made to be an RPG adventure.
 
I'm a little confused. Wasnt Sgt Pepper's a Beetles thing? (funny, this is the only forum I'm at where I actually feel too young for certain references)
 
I'm a little confused. Wasnt Sgt Pepper's a Beetles thing? (funny, this is the only forum I'm at where I actually feel too young for certain references)
Assuming you are serious, yes, it was their big album of 1967. The film is unrelated to anything Beatles except that it took the title and songs to construct a narrative and recruited top pop artists of the '70s as its leads. And it is highly entertaining.
 
I'm a little confused. Wasnt Sgt Pepper's a Beetles thing? (funny, this is the only forum I'm at where I actually feel too young for certain references)
Don't feel bad. I was alive when this came out, and I was confused as well. These weren't the guys from that Beatles cartoon that was on TV every morning.



Weird seeing it in color. We only had black and white TV back when I watched this.
 
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There is already an excellent game for this (plus Jason and the Argonauts and The Osyssey and Iliad), but it has been out of print for 35 years, give or take, and only had one supplement that I know of, an article in Nexus on including Egypt In your game.
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You need to see the semi documentary
Toys that made us!
It talks about how these toys got developed and why. He man came about specifically to give small kids the feeling of Having the Power!!!
And apparently came out after Reagan changed the regulations around shows for children. Before that children shows were not allowed to be essentially commercials for toys. Now that is pretty much all children shows are.
 
And apparently came out after Reagan changed the regulations around shows for children. Before that children shows were not allowed to be essentially commercials for toys. Now that is pretty much all children shows are.
I remember how much of my childhood I spent feeling bad because there was some damn toy I didn't have. I did a research paper on advertising aimed at children in college. Advertisers brag about their ads ability to create what they call "nagging behavior". The goal is to make children unhappy and to have them make the parents with money unhappy in turn. That shit is evil.

He-Man may have been designed to make kids feel like they had the Power, but only if they owned enough of the Masters of the Universe product line.
 
I remember how much of my childhood I spent feeling bad because there was some damn toy I didn't have. I did a research paper on advertising aimed at children in college. Advertisers brag about their ads ability to create what they call "nagging behavior". The goal is to make children unhappy and to have them make the parents with money unhappy in turn. That shit is evil.

He-Man may have been designed to make kids feel like they had the Power, but only if they owned enough of the Masters of the Universe product line.
Replace children with people and you have the modern advertising based world
 
And apparently came out after Reagan changed the regulations around shows for children. Before that children shows were not allowed to be essentially commercials for toys. Now that is pretty much all children shows are.

Not at all, my kids watch tons of shows that don't even mention toys.
 
Replace children with people and you have the modern advertising based world
Sure. I just find adults fair game within certain limits. There is just something particularly sinister about a field that makes their money by intentionally making children unhappy and raising tensions between children and their parents.
I disagree. I see very few television programs that are just pushing toy lines as you claim.
One my nephew's favorite shows is Ninjago.
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I think there is an uptick in this kind of show in America at the moment as so many kids seem to watch Netflix over traditional TV. They don't see ads, so the toy ad needs to be a show to get kids to see it at all.

Before that he was into a Pound Puppies. If that wasn't conceived as a toy ad, it certainly works as one.
 
I disagree. I see very few television programs that are just pushing toy lines as you claim.
Daniel tiger from PBS has a toy line something Fred Rogers would have been appalled by. Most kids tv shows have some sort of product tie in. Can you point to one without any toy line that's aimed at kids?
 
Hasbro got around those regulations with G.I.Joe in 1982 when they used animated commercials promoting the comic books. There was no regulations against advertising for periodicals and it still got kids into the toy stores. Hasbro and Marvel had quite the relationship when it came to that property. Archie Goodwin, who was an editor at the time, was the one who came up with Cobra the Enemy because Hasbro had no idea who G.I.Joe should be fighting!
 
You all have it exactly backwards. The children's TV regulations were changed in 1981 to forbid children's TV shows advertising toys directly (which is something that happened a lot - live action shows would have the host directly push specific toys during the show). All of the thinly-veiled-toy-commercial shows were the industry's reaction to not being able to directly advertise during programming time. There was also a ban on advertising a product during a show sponsored by the manufacturer, which is why you wouldn't get ads for G.I. Joe toys during an actual episode of G.I. Joe. Also, the rules mandated an educational component to any children's programming, which is why the "Knowing is Half the Battle" segments were tacked on to the end of G.I. Joe episodes.

Back to the OP. Thanks to Ream's First Law, no game has decent chase/stunt mechanics, but I would love a game that captures the feel of 1980's car movies/shows, like Dukes of Hazzard, Knight Rider, and Smokey and the Bandit.
 
Daniel tiger from PBS has a toy line something Fred Rogers would have been appalled by. Most kids tv shows have some sort of product tie in. Can you point to one without any toy line that's aimed at kids?

Now you're moving your goal post. You were claiming that the shows were just and mainly commercials for toy lines, now you're talking about toy tie-ins. Next you'll be running for the Senate
 
Now you're moving your goal post. You were claiming that the shows were just and mainly commercials for toy lines, now you're talking about toy tie-ins. Next you'll be running for the Senate
Oh come it's a shift but not that huge. Yes there is a difference between HeMan a friggin giant commercial and Daniel Tiger but the point is that you went from a time where watching a show simply could not result in requests for toys associated with the show to almost every show having something to buy related to it. And it's not something a parent can avoid. All it takes is another kid at the park or playground to have a toy and your dealing with it.
 
You all have it exactly backwards. The children's TV regulations were changed in 1981 to forbid children's TV shows advertising toys directly .

hmm, thats not how I've heard it...

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Ronald W. Reagan did not much care for any regulations that unduly hindered business, and the selling of products to an entire nation of children was a big business indeed. When Reagan appointed Mark S. Fowler as commissioner of the FCC on May 18, 1981, children's television would change dramatically. Fowler championed market forces as the determinant of broadcasting content, and thus oversaw the abolition of every advertising regulation that had served as a guide for broadcasters. In Fowler's estimation, the question of whether children had the ability to discriminate between the ads and the entertainment was a moot point; the free market, and not organizations such as ACT would decide the matter.

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Everything changed in 1980. As one of his first moves of his presidency, Reagan appointed a new FTC chairman, one more interested in pleasing business than parents. Within a year, the proposals were killed. What’s worse, Congress passed the Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act, which, Westen says, “mandated that the FTC would no longer have any authority whatsoever to regulate advertising and marketing to children, leaving markets virtually free to target kids as they saw fit.” Over the next couple of years the Reagan administration eliminated any remaining government oversight and deregulated children’s television.”

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The new "Transformers" movie was released last week, based on the 1980's cartoon that was based on a line of toys. Transformers was one of several such cartoons, one of which (G. I. Joe) will also have a movie later this summer. What is interesting is that those types of cartoons were actually illegal in the 1970's. It was illegal to make a cartoon based on a toy line.

Then Ronald Reagan was elected President in 1980. President Reagan, unlike far too many people at all levels of government, was actually literate and could see that the literal, word for word text of the First Amendment did not place speech into separate categories, protecting some forms of speech and not protecting other forms of speech. President Reagan then gutted the regulations and restored protections for commercial speech that never should have been removed in the first place and were never legally valid.
 
You all have it exactly backwards. The children's TV regulations were changed in 1981 to forbid children's TV shows advertising toys directly (which is something that happened a lot - live action shows would have the host directly push specific toys during the show). All of the thinly-veiled-toy-commercial shows were the industry's reaction to not being able to directly advertise during programming time. There was also a ban on advertising a product during a show sponsored by the manufacturer, which is why you wouldn't get ads for G.I. Joe toys during an actual episode of G.I. Joe. Also, the rules mandated an educational component to any children's programming, which is why the "Knowing is Half the Battle" segments were tacked on to the end of G.I. Joe episodes.

Back to the OP. Thanks to Ream's First Law, no game has decent chase/stunt mechanics, but I would love a game that captures the feel of 1980's car movies/shows, like Dukes of Hazzard, Knight Rider, and Smokey and the Bandit.
Yeah having lived through the 70's and 80's my life experience directly contradicts your assertion. In the 70's I watched banana splits, the buggaloos, and any number of shows with zero toy tie ins. The eighties changed all that. Suddenly it was all he man, gi Joe, transformers and show after show based on toys.
 
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